Posts by Mad Irishman

5:3 the watchtower magazine, principle journal of jehovah's witnesses, writes.... however, just before that day of jehovah begins, world leaders will be saying “peace and security!” this may refer to one event or to a series of events.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20120915/world-end/#?insight[search_id]=2038590d-e4a0-4101-89db-27102bef34ba&insight[search_result_index]=19.

Mad Irishman

I don't know anyone who is a JW who is waiting for something to be written to them. If there is a declaration of "True Peace and Security" it will be obvious. Anything the JW's write will simply be a validation. Not, okay, this is it this time.

You've got to pinch that 11 button of hatred down to ten sometimes in order to think straight. Don't get so worked up. They're gonna do whatever they're going to do. Just live your life and try and enjoy it!

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Spotlight won Best Film

by Sugar Shane in

during the post-awards interview, the director said that the story is not over.

it's still ongoing.

could this have been a vieled jab at jws, and/or a hint at a spotlight part 2?

Mad Irishman

Yeah, he was saying the story is not over, because he was talking about JW's.

Some of you have your heads up you know where. Everything in the world does not revolve around Jehovah's Witnesses or your angst about them. You need to get out into the world, read some books, learn history, travel, get an education, and fill your life with things to do and that interest you. Stop obsessing about JW's with everything.

And if you knew anything about the Catholic Church child abuse scandal you'd know that this is the biggest child abuse scandal in the history of mankind. The surface hasn't even been scratched yet. If people knew the real extent of what happened they would find it hard to believe. So, yeah, wait until the big news about it drops. Then you won't be reading into things like this.

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Are JW Celebrities Getting paid to say they are JW?

by Luther bertrand in

i have always wondered why prince and michael jackson stayed in good standing for some of the stuff they released as jws?

or how the williams sisters could stay in sports without all the bs?

after all the revelations about the org that i have heard... i wonder if they are paid and the reason they get away with it is that they are pr strategies and really they could give a crap about the org?

Mad Irishman

The Williams sisters are not baptized so nobody can really influence them as to what they do or say.

Michael Jackson was kicked out as a JW.

Prince does what he wants.

You really don't know the Witnesses if you think members of the Governing body would pay them. Its laughable. They can't stomach even the most minor of JW celebrities.

No offense. But sometimes some of the things put forward on this site are so crazy that it makes ex-JW's seem crazy. Sometimes people need to think hard before they post.

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Reveal article: 6 ways religious exemption laws are exploited - Excellent!

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/6-ways-religious-exemption-laws-are-exploited/.

by amy julia harris / february 29, 2016 .

6 ways religious exemption laws are exploited.

Mad Irishman

You either get rid of all the religious exemptions or none of them. Nobody is going to be singled out.

Seeing that those in control of Congress and the Senate are all religious nuts: good luck with any of that!

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Do the GB want the JW religion to fail?

by Grey Goose in

basically what the thread title says.. do you guys think the gb want the jw religion to fail?

of course failing in the ultimate sense is just not going to happen.

no matter how bankrupt they went, there is always going to be a percentage that holds on.. but downsizing the membership?

Mad Irishman

Nothing is going to happen. People have been saying the JW's are going to disappear for decades. A lot of those people who had been saying that are dead now.

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THE LINGERING SHADOW OF '75

by Terry in

none of you are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

the pressures began mounting throughout the organization.

Mad Irishman

This wasn't my experience at all in 1975. Maybe it was the congregation you were in or who your elders were. I've heard different stories from different people about what they experienced during this time and they are all different, but all I remember is my own personal experience.

The elders and CO in the congregation I grew up in made it quite clear that nobody knew when the end was coming. We were told we had no idea if 1975 meant anything or not. There certainly was a vocal minority who insisted something was going to happen, but those in charge in our halls, and those giving the talks, most of them at least, warned everyone not to speculate. We had so many "its wrong to speculate brothers" talks that I actually remember that more than the whispers about something might happen. Now I certainly remember some people, a minority doing crazy stuff like selling their house or selling their business. But I remember those people were thought of as kooks and it was wrong to be doing what they were doing. And lets face it. There were a lot of not-so-distantly-past hippies who took a lot of drugs right before they became JW's at that time.

I believe through the years what happened in 1975 has become greatly exaggerated. Why? I don't know. I know more people who left the witnesses after the explanation of the overlapping generation concept than 1975 coming and going. As a matter of fact I never knew anyone, and I was part of a big region and big group of congregations, who left the witnesses after 1975.

Everyone's experience is different. Sometimes I think we take our experience as what everyone experienced, because we assume everyone lived the exact same turmoil, emotions, or events. But life and history isn't like that. The truth is what the collective experienced. Not what the individual has.

Just my opinion.

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THE SHADOW OF '75

by Terry in

few of your are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.. .

i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

Mad Irishman

This wasn't my experience at all in 1975. Maybe it was the congregation you were in or who your elders were. I've heard different stories from different people about what they experienced during this time and they are all different, but all I remember is my own personal experience.

The elders and CO in the congregation I grew up in made it quite clear that nobody knew when the end was coming. We were told we had no idea if 1975 meant anything or not. There certainly was a vocal minority who insisted something was going to happen, but those in charge in our halls, and those giving the talks, most of them at least, warned everyone not to speculate. We had so many "its wrong to speculate brothers" talks that I actually remember that more than the whispers about something might happen. Now I certainly remember some people, a minority doing crazy stuff like selling their house or selling their business. But I remember those people were thought of as kooks and it was wrong to be doing what they were doing. And lets face it. There were a lot of not-so-distantly-past hippies who took a lot of drugs right before they became JW's at that time.

I believe through the years what happened in 1975 has become greatly exaggerated. Why? I don't know. I know more people who left the witnesses after the explanation of the overlapping generation concept than 1975 coming and going. As a matter of fact I never knew anyone, and I was part of a big region and big group of congregations, who left the witnesses after 1975.

Everyone's experience is different. Sometimes I think we take our experience as what everyone experienced, because we assume everyone lived the exact same turmoil, emotions, or events. But life and history isn't like that. The truth is what the collective experienced. Not what the individual has.

Just my opinion.

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What's a word that describes the way Witnesses behave as a group?

by paul from cleveland in

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i can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.

i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.

i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.

Mad Irishman

You had it with insular. It is neither negative nor positive. Go with that.